Cisco Syst. 851 Ethernet SOHO Security Router ( CISCO851-K9 )
Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
  • A very solid router but certainly not for amateur
Cisco Syst. 851 Ethernet SOHO Security Router ( CISCO851-K9 )

Manufacturer: CISCO SYSTEMS - ENTERPRISE
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

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Product Features:
  • 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet
  • 4-port 10/100 Mbps switch
  • FRWL, IPSec VPN Support

ASIN: B000A439QS

Product Description

Cisco 850 Series integrated services routers are fixed-configuration routers that support broadband cable and Asymmetric DSL (ADSL) over analog telephone lines connections in small offices. They provide the performance needed to run concurrent services, including firewall and encryption for VPNs and optional 802.11b/g for wireless networking. The Cisco Router and Security Device Manager (SDM) Web-based configuration tool simplifies setup and deployment, and centralized management capabilities give network managers visibility and control of router configurations at the remote site.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars A very solid router but certainly not for amateur .......2007-02-04

As a home user, after upgrading my broadband to 6.0mb/s from Comcast, both my netgear and linksys routers were overwhelmed and couldn't cope up with all the activities for the 5 computers, Xbox360 and Slingbox in the house. After researching all the business class routers, including Netgear, Linksys, Sonicwall and others. Finally, I've decided that Cisco is the best product that would solve my problem. Knowing that this is a sophiscated product, I ordered the most basic router without wireless access (hence less variables to configure). Amazon has the best price among all the websites though you certainly don't get any type of technical support from them. As expected, the router requires some professional knowledge to configure. Being a home user, I only changed very few settings through the SDM software that came with the router and it worked very well within my network. The performance of the router is impressive and I am getting the same download speed if I connect my PC directly to the modem. With all the loaded activities in the house, the CPU usage was just around 40%. This router certainly is of professional quality and doesn't even warm up after leaving it on all the time.

On the flip side, I found that the user interface (SDM) to manage the router is a little over complicated. It could be much more simplier but is still acceptable. The command line interface through the console port is definitely for professional who knows exactly what they are doing. Through the command interface, you can get almost all status and configuration from the router. I dare not to modify any configuration using the console interface because I'm not sure what I'll be changing. In addition, this router is 4 times more expensive than the ones you can get from local retail stores. Overall, I would recommend this router if you need the quality and performance. Otherwise, stay with the consumer products from Linksys or Netgear.
Linksys/cisco 24PRT 10/100/1000GBIT Switch Lifetime Warranty
Average customer rating: 3 out of 5 stars
  • Enterprise is like a Cisco so ... is Linksys
  • Doesn't work with Firefox -- or ANY mac browser!
  • NOISY - VERY Noisy
  • Great switch but big and noisy!
Linksys/cisco 24PRT 10/100/1000GBIT Switch Lifetime Warranty

Manufacturer: Linksys
ProductGroup: CE
Binding: Electronics

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Product Features:
  • Twenty-four 10/100/1000Mbps, half/full duplex, switched ports, and two Mini-GBIC expansion ports
  • Forwards and filters packets at non-blocking, full wire speed
  • All ports have auto speed negotiation and auto MDI/MDI-X crossover detection
  • Linksys reliability and limited lifetime warranty

ASIN: B0000D941C

Product Description

The 24-Port 10/100/1000 Gigabit Switch provides non-blocking, wire speed switching for your 10, 100, and 1000 megabit network clients. Drop this switch in place of your current workgroup hub or switch, and you can upgrade your high-requirement workstations to full Gigabit speeds as necessary, while continuing to service other clients at their current speeds. Or build your network from the ground up, with appropriate link speeds for each user's requirements. Either way, it's perfect for graphics, multimedia, and other applications that have to move large files across the network quickly. And when you need to expand your network even further, the two Mini-GBIC ports let you add fiber-optic capability easily and cost effectively. With the 24-Port 10/100/1000 Gigabit Switch, you can connect your existing 10/100 Ethernet network to a Gigabit server backbone without any additional equipment. All ports have automatic MDI/MDI-X crossover detection, so you don't have to worry about the cable type. Each port independently and automatically negotiates for best speed and whether to run in half- or full-duplex mode. Address learning and aging is supported, as well as 802.3x flow control with head-of-line blocking prevention to keep your high-speed clients from bogging down in lower-speed traffic. Fast store-and-forward switching prevents damaged packets from being passed on into the network. World famous Linksys reliability gives you peace of mind and the rackmount form factor integrates smoothly into your network infrastructure. Let the Linksys 24-Port 10/100/1000 Gigabit Switch kick your network into high gear.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Enterprise is like a Cisco so ... is Linksys.......2007-05-13

Good web administration faster and easy to setup

1 out of 5 stars Doesn't work with Firefox -- or ANY mac browser!.......2006-11-22


I second the comments about the loud fan.

However, the deal breaker for me (I'm returning the unit I bought) is that the web management interface does not work with Firefox. In fact, it works ONLY with IE on a PC.

Given that many other Linksys products work with Firefox, I was pretty surprised.

Linksys needs to have a talk with the clue fairy and cut some new firmware.

1 out of 5 stars NOISY - VERY Noisy.......2005-04-02

I placed this switch in an isolated central wiring closet that has other network equipment, some with fans and disk drives. There has never been any sound audible outside the wiring closet.

This switch sounds like a vacuum cleaner, and is clearly audible and objectionable in every room that abuts the closet.

The switch seems to function OK but the noise is so loud that I regret the purchase.

Unless you can mount this switch were noise is already very loud, or where noise will not bother anyone, I'd recommend you look elsewhere.

4 out of 5 stars Great switch but big and noisy!.......2005-02-23

Check out those dimensions! BIG!. It has a fan too and they haven't taken any lessons from Steve Jobs about making the fan quiet so it better be in an enclosed, insulated space if you are putting this in your home or small office.
Other than that it is great and a real performer (switches at wire speed)
p.s.
I wish I could change my vote to 2 stars.
Although they answered the support line quickly, I was told that the noise of this product is as designed and it really isn't intended for a small office, but rather should live in an already noisy data center where it can just add to the din. I am going to return mine and find another brand that actually wants it's equipment to be used in a small office. Sigh...
Linksys-Cisco WIRELESS G BRIDGE FOR PHONE ( WBP54G )
Average customer rating: 5 out of 5 stars
  • Works great
  • Works great, just a little expensive
  • Unwires a Sipura VOIP Device
Linksys-Cisco WIRELESS G BRIDGE FOR PHONE ( WBP54G )

Manufacturer: Linksys
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Product Features:
  • Converts phones to Wireless-G (draft 802.11g) network connectivity
  • Works without drivers on Windows, Macintosh, Linux, or other devices -- anything with an Ethernet port
  • Provides high-speed cable-free bridging between remote workgroups
  • Supports Power Over Ethernet for ease of installation (POE Adapter required)

ASIN: B000BRUGZG

Product Description

The Linksys Wireless-G 802.11g 54Mbps Bridge for Phone Adapters will make any device a part of your wireless network. There are no drivers to load, so setup is a snap -- configure the network settings through your PC's web browser, then plug it into your device and go. And physical installation is simplified by support for Power Over Ethernet.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars Works great.......2007-08-23

I was extremely hesitant in getting this because I worried that voice lag would be created by the semi-complicated setup we have.

To give some background:
We have 3 cordless phones around our house that talk to a central base station that is plugged into a wall jack. Elsewhere in the house, we have Linksys PAP2 device (Vonage Service) that one end plugs into the wall (backfeeding to the phone base station), and the other half was plugged into our home router.

For those Visual People:
Cordless Phone > Phone Base Station > House Wiring > PAP2 > Router > Cable Modem > Vonage

My concern was that by inserting a Wireless Bridge between the PAP2 and the Router (which is now on the other side of the house), that a delay would be created, or the signal would occasionally just drop.

I am happy to say that I completely over thought the complications of it.

When the device came, I followed the setup wizard on the CD (didn't bother with the picture book type printed instructions) and had the bridge configured in about 15 minutes. I then moved the PAP2 and Bridge to where I needed them, and plugged it in...and like magic, everything worked great. We've had no lag, no problems, and most importantly, no signal drops.

While wired is still the most reliable method to make sure your VoiP phone device talks to your network consistently, I would definitely recommend this device to anyone who has to take the wireless route.

5 out of 5 stars Works great, just a little expensive.......2007-02-08

This actually will work with any VoIP phone that has the same power plug. I'm using it with a grandstream budgetone.

5 out of 5 stars Unwires a Sipura VOIP Device.......2006-09-10

Need to operate a Sipura (now Linksys) ATA VOIP device wirelessly? This is the device for you. For example, you are in a hotel room that only offers a wireless internet connection. You wouldn't be able to use your Sipura ATA because there is no wired ethernet connection.

The Linksys WBP54G will allow you to unwire your Sipura VOIP ATA device's ethernet connection. The WBP54G acts as a wireless bridge for a Sipura device. No power brick needed, it shares power from the Sipura ATA's DC adapter.

After reading the Quick Installation, I figured I could get by without any WBP54G setup procedure whatsoever. YMMV. I'm not using any wireless secutity on my router (Linksys WRT54GL). There's no other open router within range. I just plugged in the WBP54G and it worked immediately. Voice quality is just as good as wired ethernet.

The device is small, about the size of a pack of cigarettes. Since no additional parts are needed, it travels easily.
Asa 5505 Security Appliance 10
Average customer rating: Not rated
    Asa 5505 Security Appliance 10

    Manufacturer: CISCO SYSTEMS - ENTERPRISE
    ProductGroup: CE
    Binding: Electronics

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    Product Features:
    • Cisco ASA 5505 Firewall Edition Bundle
    • Security appliance
    • 10 users
    • 8 ports
    • 10/100 Fast Ethernet switch

    ASIN: B000O0Z8GC

    Product Description

    Cisco ASA 5500 Series adaptive security appliances are purpose-built solutions that combine best-of-breed security and VPN services with the innovative Cisco Adaptive Identification and Mitigation (AIM) architecture. Designed as a core component of the Cisco Self-Defending Network, the Cisco ASA 5500 Series provides proactive threat defense that stops attacks before they spread through the network, controls network activity and application traffic, and delivers flexible VPN connectivity. The result is a powerful multifunction network security appliance family that provides the security breadth and depth for protecting home office, branch office, small and medium-sized business, and enterprise networks while reducing the overall deployment and operations costs and complexities associated with providing this new level of security.
    Cisco 871 Integrated Services Router - router ( CISCO871-SEC-K9 )
    Average customer rating: Not rated
      Cisco 871 Integrated Services Router - router ( CISCO871-SEC-K9 )

      Manufacturer: CISCO SYSTEMS - ENTERPRISE
      ProductGroup: CE
      Binding: Electronics

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      Product Features:
      • Buy with confidence!
      • Cisco 871 Ethernet Integrated Services Router with PLUS Feature Set, Ethernet WAN Port for use with

      ASIN: B000A470IQ

      Product Description

      Cisco 870 Series of integrated services routers are fixed-configuration routers that support multiple types of DSL technologies, broadband cable, and Metro Ethernet connections in small offices. They provide the performance needed to run concurrent services, including firewall, intrusion prevention, and encryption for VPNs; optional 802.11b/g for WLAN networking; and quality of service (QoS) features for optimizing voice and video applications. In addition, the Cisco Router and Security Device Manager (SDM) Web-based configuration tool simplifies setup and deployment, and centralized management capabilities give network managers visibility and control of the network configurations at the remote site.
      Linksys-Cisco 48 PORT 10 100 PLUS 4 PORT ( SRW248G4 )
      Average customer rating: Not rated
        Linksys-Cisco 48 PORT 10 100 PLUS 4 PORT ( SRW248G4 )

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        Product Features:
        • Linksys 48-port 10-100 + 4-Port Gigabit Switch with WebView SRW248G4
        • LINKSYS

        ASIN: B000BWYU3A

        Product Description

        Linksys 48-Port 10/100Mbps + 4-Port 10/100/1000Mbps RJ45 (with 2 shared SFP Slots) Workgroup/Rackmount Gigabit Switch with WebView remote configuration and monitoring. MODEL- SRW248G4 VENDOR- LINKSYS FEATURES- 48-port 10/100 + 4-Port Gigabit Switch with WebView The Linksys WebView Managed switch allows you to expand your network securely. Configuration of the switch is secured using SSL for Web access and SSH for Telnet access. User control is secured using 802.1x security using a RADIUS authentication mechanism and can also be controlled using MAC filtering. Extensive QoS features makes the solution ideal for real-time applications like Voice and Video. The 4 priority queues together with the Weighted Round Robin and Strict Priority scheduling techniques facilitate efficient co-existence of real-time traffic with data traffic allowing them each to meet their QoS needs. Individual users or applications can be prioritized above others using various Class of Service options - by port layer 2 priority (802.1p) Layer 3 priority (TOS or DSCP) or IPv6 Traffic Class. Intelligent Broadcast Multicast and Unknown Unicast storm control minimizes and contain the effect of these types of traffic on regular traffic. IGMP Snooping limits bandwidth-intensive video traffic to only the requestors without flooding to all users. Incoming traffic can be policed and outgoing traffic can be shaped allowing you to control network access and traffic flow. There are features that allow you to expand and grow your network of switches. Link aggregation allow multiple high-bandwidth trunks between
        Cisco Syst. PIX 501 Security Appliance ( PIX-501-UL-BUN-K9 )
        Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
        • Great Firewall
        • Great product with great price
        • Another award winning product from Cisco
        Cisco Syst. PIX 501 Security Appliance ( PIX-501-UL-BUN-K9 )

        Manufacturer: CISCO SYSTEMS - ENTERPRISE
        ProductGroup: CE
        Binding: Electronics

        WirelessWireless | Networking & Online Communication | Computer Add-Ons | Computers & Add-Ons | Categories | Electronics | 802.11a Standard | 802.11b Standard | 802.11g Standard | Access Points | Bluetooth | CompactFlash Adapters | Desktop Cards | Networked Attached Storage | Networking Kits | Notebook Cards | Pre-N | Print Servers | Routers | USB Adapters
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        Product Features:
        • PIX 501 unlimited user bndle
        • 3DES licenses
        • 4-port 10/100 switch, 10/100

        ASIN: B0000A4F2Y

        Product Description

        The Cisco PIX 501 Security Appliance delivers enterprise-class security for small offices and teleworkers in a reliable, plug-and-play purpose-built appliance. Ideal for securing high-speed "always on" broadband environments, the Cisco PIX 501 Security Appliance, which is part of the world-leading Cisco PIX Security Appliance Series, provides robust integrated security capabilities, small office networking features, and powerful remote management capabilities in a compact, all-in-one solution.

        Customer Reviews:

        5 out of 5 stars Great Firewall.......2005-06-30

        After some research and few friend's recommendation, I decided on PIX 501. It's the lowest model of PIX from Cisco (which fits our small company's need), but it has the same technology of Stateful Packet Inspection as other Cisco Firewall, except at a lower bandwidth.

        I'm not a network admin, so I didn't know that with a firewall, I need to change all public IP to internal IP in order for it work. Since this particular PIX doesn't do layer 2 conversion. So I got my work cut out for me to migration over 50 machines to internal IP, well, it's for the best security anyway. Should have been done a long time ago before I inherit the network. Firewall rules are pretty simple, similar to Cisco router ACL. I wanted to use the GUI, but my friends were against it, they said it's pretty weak. They're right, command line is better, but nevertheless, I tried the GUI (PDM), it's not bad to see some graphs but for some feature I think it's less confusing using command line. PDM is written in Java but Java 1.5 won't work, some compatibility issue, you have to use Java 1.4. I found this out the hard way.

        It's got some pretty nice feature because of packet inspection, like it checks for ftp command, so bad commands to ftp port gets block. This will block hacker from hacking using bug inside the FTP server. Also for FTP, it takes care of ftp ports usage (port 20, 21), none of these active/passive issues. Passive FTP works w/ firewall, but if both side has firewall w/ high ports blocked, then ftp will have problem. But the PIX takes care of that issue.

        Overall, it's a solid firewall, haven't had any trouble with it once it's setup. Pretty happy with it. And the unlimited licenses means unlimited IP internally, so we don't have to worry about the license issue.

        5 out of 5 stars Great product with great price.......2004-07-19

        You can get every goodies of network security from this little baby, except the DMZ and VLANs. In response of previous comment, you can always get PIX 515E, 525, or even 535 for more network demand. But again, basically they are all the same. The differences are only the DMZ, VLAN, and speed.

        Since this kind of product requires sufficient knowledge of networking, I advise not to blame products due to your lack of knowledge. Most problems with firewalls (and other networking devices) are improper choice of product, poor configuration, and lack of networking knowledge. You should know what you are doing and what are the implications.

        Cisco products have been proven as top of the line in regards of their customer services. As an example, go to their website. You will find wealth of networking tips, which is gold mine even for non-Cisco users. Never other companies have this kind of website.

        You can your every penny worth with Cisco products (including this PIX 501) as long as (one more time) you know what you are doing and why.

        4 out of 5 stars Another award winning product from Cisco.......2004-06-29

        Cisco PIX 501 Security Appliance is perfect firewall system for offices with moderate threat level to their security. Firewall device 501 is ideal for securing high-speed broadband environments, the Cisco PIX 501 delivers up to 60 Mbps of firewall throughput, and supports up to 3 Mbps of Triple Data Encryption Standard (3DES) VPN throughput. The Advanced Encryption Standard-128 (AES) VPN throughput has 4.5 Mbps speed capability.

        The Cisco PIX 501 Security Appliance provides several options for securing network communications between mobile users, remote offices, and corporate networks over low-cost Internet connections. However, for bigger corporate and enterprise level and to support complex network configurations, this is not a right product. I still believe that checkpoint is a better solution for bigger networks but its support is not as good as Cisco.

        Moreover, Cisco devices are generally fully compatible with other Cisco products like routers and VPN concentrators.

        Again, The quality and reliability should not be discussed here as it is another standard quality product from Cisco Inc. Cisco 501 Security Appliance will serve the purpose well for smaller offices with fewer remote locations.
        Cisco 1841 Integrated Services Router - router ( CISCO1841 )
        Average customer rating: Not rated
          Cisco 1841 Integrated Services Router - router ( CISCO1841 )

          Manufacturer: CISCO SYSTEMS - ENTERPRISE
          ProductGroup: CE
          Binding: Electronics

          RoutersRouters | Wireless | Networking & Online Communication | Computer Add-Ons | Computers & Add-Ons | Categories | Electronics
          Product Features:
          • Cisco 1841 Integrated Services Router
          • Router
          • Cisco IOS
          • 1U

          ASIN: B00064AW7G

          Product Description

          Cisco 1800 Series integrated services routers are the next evolution of the award-winning Cisco 1700 Series modular access routers. The Cisco 1841 router is designed for secure data connectivity and provides significant additional value compared to prior generations of Cisco 1700 Series routers by offering more than a fivefold performance increase, integrated hardware-based encryption enabled by an optional Cisco IOS Software security image, and a dramatic increase in interface card slot performance and density while maintaining support for more than 30 existing WAN interface cards (WICs) and multiflex trunk cards (voice/WICs [VWICs]-for data only on the Cisco 1841 router) of the Cisco 1700 Series.The Cisco 1841 router features secure, fast, and high-quality delivery of multiple, concurrent services for small-to-medium-sized businesses and small enterprise branch offices. The Cisco 1841 router offers embedded hardware-based encryption enabled by an optional Cisco IOS Software security image; further enhancement of VPN performance with an optional VPN acceleration module; an intrusion prevention system (IPS) and firewall functions; interfaces for a wide range of connectivity requirements, including support for optional integrated switch ports; plus sufficient performance and slot density for future network expansion and advanced applications as well as an integrated real-time clock.
          Linksys-Cisco 24 PORT 10 100 PLUS 4 PORT ( SRW224G4 )
          Average customer rating: Not rated
            Linksys-Cisco 24 PORT 10 100 PLUS 4 PORT ( SRW224G4 )

            Manufacturer: Linksys
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            • LINKSYS

            ASIN: B000BWYU30

            Product Description

            The Linksys WebView Managed switch allows you to expand your network securely. Configuration of the switch is secured using SSL for Web access and SSH for Telnet access. User control is secured using 802.1x security using a RADIUS authentication mechanism and can also be controlled using MAC filtering.Extensive QoS features make the solution ideal for real-time applications like Voice and Video. The 4 priority queues together with the Weighted Round Robin and Strict Priority scheduling techniques facilitate efficient co-existence of real-time traffic with data traffic allowing them each to meet their QoS needs. Individual users or applications can be prioritized above others using various Class of Service options - by port, layer 2 priority (802.1p), Layer 3 priority (TOS or DSCP), or IPv6 Traffic Class. Intelligent Broadcast, Multicast, and Unknown Unicast storm control minimizes and contain the effect of these types of traffic on regular traffic. IGMP Snooping limits bandwidth-intensive video traffic to only the requestors without flooding to all users. Incoming traffic can be policed and outgoing traffic can be shaped allowing you to control network access and traffic flow.There are features that allow you to expand and grow your network of switches. Link aggregation allows multiple high-bandwidth trunks between switches to be setup. This also provides a level of reliability in that the system continues to operate if one of the links break. Spanning Tree (STP), Fast Spanning Tree, and Multiple Spanning Tree allow you to build a mesh of switches increasing the availability of the system.The rich management functionality of the WebView switches includes SNMP, RMON, Telnet, and HTTP Management options, allowing you to flexibly integrate and manage these devices in your network.
            Linksys-Cisco Linksys Broadband Router RT31P2 - router ( RT31P2-NA )
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              Linksys-Cisco Linksys Broadband Router RT31P2 - router ( RT31P2-NA )

              Manufacturer: Linksys
              ProductGroup: CE
              Binding: Electronics

              TelephonyTelephony | Networking & Online Communication | Computer Add-Ons | Computers & Add-Ons | Categories | Electronics | IP Gateways | IP Phones | Voice Boards
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              1. Linksys SPA8000 8-Port Telephony Gateway - VoIP phone adapter - EN, Fast EN Linksys SPA8000 8-Port Telephony Gateway - VoIP phone adapter - EN, Fast EN

              Product Features:
              • Unlocked PAP2 + Router with QoS adapter works with any SIP voip provider of your choice, such as Babytel, Acanac, StanaPhone, Vbuzzer, Gizmo, Voipbuster, Voipstunt, etc. It has 2 separate phone lines. You can configure 2 independent phone numbers at the same time, one for North America, another for oversea.
              • PAP2 + Router with QoS is better then just PAP2, because they already have a good router built inside with many features including QoS, which makes voice quality better. Not every router has QoS feature. Therefore, this device is better than a combination of just a PAP2 and a regular router without the function of QoS.
              • Plus, PAP2 adapter, for some reasons, doesn't work well with every router in the market. Sme people changed their router just because it didn't work with PAP2. When you have a PAP2 + Router with QoS adapter, you won't have that risk. It is plug-and-play. That's why PAP2 + Router with QoS is better then just PAP2.
              • What is QoS? It is short form of Quality of Service. It gives priority to voice signals in your networking. Let's say you're using internet for download, when you receive or place a call, the router slows down all your jobs and prioritizes on voice signals. That helps receiving better voice quality.

              ASIN: B0002YF3C4

              Product Description

              Unlocked PAP2 + Router with QoS adapter works with any SIP voip provider of your choice, such as Babytel, Acanac, StanaPhone, Vbuzzer, Gizmo, Voipbuster, Voipstunt, etc. It has 2 separate phone lines. You can configure 2 independent phone numbers at the same time, one for North America, another for oversea.

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